Photos from Consultation on Police and HIV, Amsterdam,

by LEAHN Moderator on October 4, 2014

in News & Events

Thanks to everyone who attended the Consultation. It was a very successful day with many new ideas and new friends.

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abdallah October 5, 2014, 8:21 am

Things are really changing and the traditional policing does not work in contemporary world hence the collaborative respond among stakeholders are highly encouraged towards Harm Reduction Intervention

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- Vitaliy October 13, 2014, 3:36 am
  
  Dave, I think being school piloce is a great piloce job. The only downside is psychological, in that in many ways it isn’t “real” piloce work. Or at least what many consider “real” piloce work. But the piloce work that is “real” (in quotes) often isn’t fun work. So as long as you’re not insecure about the fact that you won’t be arresting lots of bad guys, “real” piloce may look down on you a bit (but deep down they’ll be jealous), and you you won’t be having to prove you’re tough all time, you’ll be fine. And for a smart piloce officer, just like you think, in many ways you will have a chance to do better piloce work than a cop like me could do (just answering radio calls in the ghetto).Of course college students take drugs too. And I imagine you’ll have lots off B.S. with the legal drinking age. But I do think you’re on the right track.The pay is good, the working conditions are better. And the ebb of flow of the school year will give your job some variety. Plus, you get to watch lots of beautiful women. Do it!
  
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Abraham October 7, 2014, 1:15 pm

I think that in this change and uncomfortable world people will face different problems for that reason LEAHN is thebest solution so we must stand together.

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Alex October 12, 2014, 4:09 pm

I don’t believe aoynne could prove you wrong on that one. Generally police departments, and the politicians that dictate their actions (call my crazy but I think citizens should have more say on the strategies used by their police) focus on numbers (arrests, tickets, and asset forfeiture $$$)and high profile actions that draw press coverage. The day to day hardwork and the development of a true working relationship between the citizens and the police just isn’t sexy enough for our ADD-afflicted nation, I’m afraid. I have a related question: I am currently involved in the hiring process for the police dept. at a large midwestern university. Through the research I’ve done, and through my current work experience I have come to believe that authentic community policing initiatives (crime prevention and analysis, educational programs, foot/bike patrols etc.) work better in the campus setting. This is part of my motivation for applying to this agency. Actually, the career paths available seem to be as good as they would be in a traditional p.d., and I don’t think I’d get sucked into too much drug war bullshit. Do you think I’m on the right track with this or am I being too optimistic?

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Geoffrey Monaghan October 22, 2014, 1:31 pm

I read with interest the comment by Inspector Abdallah Said Kirungu and after some consideration, thought it merited a response.

I would argue that any discussions regarding ‘traditional policing’ models must be framed in the context of the so-called ‘Peelian Principles’. If we follow this approach, I believe that any conclusions relating to notions of traditional policing models and their relevance to contemporary societies will be rather more nuanced.

It is tempting to list the Peelian principles in their ‘original’ and revised form (as articulated by the Independent Police Commission in its report Policing for a Better Britain) but this would be lengthy and repetitive. Instead, I would urge readers to read the Commission’s excellent report and judge for themselves whether the Peelian principles that continue to underpin policing styles in modern liberal democratic states (and even in a number of not-so liberal democratic states) are still relevant today.

Perhaps more to the point is the fact that anyone conducting research on the history of policing in Britain will find ample evidence to support the view that the Peelian principles were sufficiently broad to accommodate modern-day notions of human rights and ‘harm reduction approaches’ in Victorian times. For example, this instruction is to be found in Metropolitan Police Order dated 11th July 1892: “Every person arrested by the police on suspicion, and remaining for a longer or shorter time in police custody, should be allowed immediate and ample facilities for communication with his friends or legal advisors.” And in relation to ill, injured or intoxicated persons, a Metropolitan Police Order dated 12th May 1891 states: “It is to be thoroughly understood that in all cases in which persons come in the hands of Police whether as prisoners or in any other manner and there is any appearance of their being ill, or suffering from injury or it is known or believed that they have fallen down, while drunk or otherwise, the Divisional or other Surgeon is to be invariably sent for to see them although they make no complaint. The Commissioner trusts that there will be no neglect in carrying out this order. He desires that that a liberal interpretation may be placed on all orders and regulations with respect to the attendance of Divisional Surgeons in cases of illness, accident, injury, or drunkenness, and even of suspected injury.”

See Policing for a Better Britain (November 2013) Report of the Independent Police Commission (Chaired by The Lord Stevens of Kirkwhelpington QPM, former Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police Service, London)
http://independentpolicecommission.org.uk/uploads/37d80308-be23-9684-054d-e4958bb9d518.pdf

See also the Emsley, C. (2013) ‘Peel’s Principles, Police Principles’; in J. Brown (ed) The Future of Policing. London: Routledge.

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